[OnePiece]

ok, so anyways, had an argument with a group of srt 4 owners. and i made a bet with one of them, saying a stock ss or ws6, 6 speed whatever.. would beat a stock srt 4, he thinks im crazy for some reason :O but if any one can get these 2 cars 2 race since i dont have either... and his srt isnt even close to stock ... id appreciate it

 

[DRIVN Ind.]

Your friend is a moron.

LS1 car would open a stock SRT4's butthole like a flower.

 

[The ///Man]

sea level the f-body should win easy, up here in albuquerque, my best stock SRT-4 time was [email protected], most f-bodies I would see in the low to mid 14's, but that's not to say they aren't faster. From a sissy roll, srt would probably walk away.

 

[Johnvon the Dick]

modded srt 4 is a different story but stock for stock the ls1 should win. except in Colorado on pikes peak

 

[OnePiece]

word, so tell nick with the white acr that he owe me 20 bucks haha

 

[The ///Man]

word, so tell nick with the white acr that he owe me 20 bucks haha

I wouldn't get ahead of yourself, there are only 3 posts in this thread, 2 of which come from people who most likely haven't had much seat time in a sock either up here in the clouds.

 

[OnePiece]

ive driven many many STOCK ls1.. i used to work at pitre, ive driven ws6, ss, z28, ive had tons of seat time in ls1, and ive driven a couple MODDED srt-4's. i am not about to turn this into a damn argument, i was getn opinion. but my head is far from in the clouds, and i have got plenty of "seat time" not to mention racing the ls1's vs many things, evo's sti's mach1's porsche's anything we got in on trade... just never a stock srt4.. so its whatever, maybe some one can race em and make it final.

 

[The ///Man]

Well, if you know what stock ls1 runs, my best stock srt time is what I stated, which is on par with about the best I've seen for completely stock SRT-4's here in town. Compare the two times and you have your answer. Pretty simple. Finding either of those stock to run eacho ther is pretty hard as they are very popular cars to modify.

Like I said though, most of the completely stock ls1's I've seen were in the mid-low 14's and mid-high 90's

 

[DRIVN Ind.]

I have no idea what altitude does to NA cars as opposed to boosted cars or anything of that nature.

I barely even know what a turbo is or how it works. All I know is my peripheral vision gets blurry when so called "boost" comes in, ala 2f2f. Thats good enough for me.

 

[The ///Man]

I have no idea what altitude does to NA cars as opposed to boosted cars or anything of that nature.

I barely even know what a turbo is or how it works. All I know is my peripheral vision gets blurry when so called "boost" comes in, ala 2f2f. Thats good enough for me.

Seems like most relatively stock cars lose about 1 second give or take from sea level to Albuquerque. It's around a 20% correction on the dyno form all the dyno's I've had.

 

[OnePiece]

well, ive seen near stock ls1's run 13.8 13.9, and just cuz one srt4 runs a 13.9 doesnt mean they all do, its a mean avg. i bet more ls1's run 13's stock then srt4s... regardless.. track is not what im after any way. im looking for street. this is in the street racing forum yes? and in my humble opinion i think ls1's are faster, and ofcourse you contest this. but i dont own an ls1 u own an srt4.. ofcourse your opinion "COULD" be bias.

 

[The ///Man]

well, ive seen near stock ls1's run 13.8 13.9, and just cuz one srt4 runs a 13.9 doesnt mean they all do, its a mean avg. i bet more ls1's run 13's stock then srt4s... regardless.. track is not what im after any way. im looking for street. this is in the street racing forum yes? and in my humble opinion i think ls1's are faster, and ofcourse you contest this. but i dont own an ls1 u own an srt4.. ofcourse your opinion "COULD" be bias.

Well, if you know the answer, why ask opinions? Like I said, my times were comparable to the faster STOCK srt-4s, meaning I've seen a few out at the track running the same 13.9's-14.0s. Remember, even if those are similar times, the SRT picks up a handful more MPH out of the 1/4 mile, meaning from roll race, it will most likely be faster all things comparable. Am I not answering your question the way you want to hear it or something?

 

[OnePiece]

well, ofcourse my friend isnt going to take my word for it if there is money on the line, right? so if i gather a consensus.. maybe it would change his mind, or maybe 2 cars can race, post a vid.. or maybe some one has a vid. thats why i posted the thread, its not EVEN the money that i care about 20 bucks aint shit.. its the principle of the argument and winning it that is important to me. and yes i understand they will pick up mph.. but in my honest opinion srt4s would get walked even up top. i can probly get a stock ls1, if u can get a stock srt4. but i cant promise that i can... its a maybe. im sure some one on here has a stock ls1 and a stock srt4...

 

[The ///Man]

I barely even know what a turbo is or how it works. All I know is my peripheral vision gets blurry when so called "boost" comes in, ala 2f2f. Thats good enough for me.

like this

 

[DRIVN Ind.]

Well, if you know the answer, why ask opinions? Like I said, my times were comparable to the faster STOCK srt-4s, meaning I've seen a few out at the track running the same 13.9's-14.0s. Remember, even if those are similar times, the SRT picks up a handful more MPH out of the 1/4 mile, meaning from roll race, it will most likely be faster all things comparable.

And the fastest stock LS1's have been as fast as a 12.7. Which is over a full second and many car lengths ahead of an SRT. I understand that didnt happen in the magical world that is New Mexico, but contrary to what you may believe regarding altitude, that doesnt make white turn into black, and up turn into down.

Are there differences especially when comparing a boosted car to an NA car? of course. But nothing earth shattering to the point it would hugely change a matchup between two 300 horsepower cars.


A stock LS1 is a faster car, period. Roll, stop, whatever you want. And I dont even have an LSx bias. I hate my camaro. In fact once I sell it Ill probably never buy another LSx motor again because Id rather boost a dodge or lambo.

Here on the east coast that isnt in the sky, SRT 4's are regarded as 14 second cars stock within the hands of an average driver, and LS1's are regarded as mid 13 second cars in the hands of average drivers.

 

[DRIVN Ind.]

like this

Yes.

But Im not cool enough to have an ACR sticker on any of my vehicles, so that part is omitted from my description.

Someday.

 

[OnePiece]

word... i am a honda man personally.... but the srt4's are rated at like 230, and the ss's are rated at 330.. with a lot more torque.. torque moves weight.. so the weight issue almost becomes negligent in my eyes.. but its still a factor.. dunno what a stock f body weighs im assuming about 3600 to 3800 lbs
and a stock srt some where in the 3000 to 3200 lb range.. both with driver

 

[The ///Man]

maybe someone can tell if the 2nd and last races are lt1 or ls1
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Go837FcLA"]YouTube - Albuquerque Drag Racing 03/17/07[/ame]


2nd race on this one also, announcer says 14.2 to the winner of this one, but you can't see the time.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mwRTGdJ-MU"]YouTube - ABQ opening day, part 2[/ame]

 

[OnePiece]

the 2nd looks like an lt1.. its purple.. and i believe 6 speed matters on the street.. and this is at the track once again, defeating the purpose of posting it in the "street racing" forum. the last one looks like an ls1.. i dunno, but it could be auto, or driver error, best way to solve it is just to have 2 cars race. stock vs stock

 

[The ///Man]

That being said, numbers are numbers, the videos are more for Drivn though, so he can see what they run here, vs. sea level. I doubt 4 drivers on the same day are all terrible drivers.